By now, you must have heard about the bigbauta exclusive TMZ had earlier today. They obtained a voicemail recording where Alec Baldwin goes wild on his pre-pubescent 11-year old daughter Ireland. Immediately, Baldwin is labelled as a horrible father who’s got anger management issues. As always, there’s two sides to the story, and in my opinion…..the way this was leaked and put out to the media was even worse than what Alec did.
Alec recorded a private voicemail for his daughter, which was meant to be heard by her ears only (and obviously Kim’s)…and whatever goes on in their private lives and especially through a small piece of a bigger puzzle is of course none of our business. What Kim Basinger and her shitbag lawyer did was worse. Think about it, that poor 11-year old gets exploited by her mother and put in the middle of a media frenzy in a way to publicly show the world that Alec Baldwin is an asshole.
Kim Basinger, you’re a fucking BITCH.
In a statement released to the press, Baldwin’s spokesman said:
“In the best interest of the child, Alec will do what the mother is pathologically incapable of doing … keeping his mouth shut and obeying the court order. The mother and her lawyer leaked this sealed material in violation of a court order. Although Alec acknowledges that he should have used different language in parenting his child, everyone who knows him privately knows what he has been put through for the past six years.”
You only jump to conclusions when it’s about Britney. LMFAO
There is NEVER an Okay time to talk to your daughter like that. The only person in the wrong here is ALEC, the names he called his daughter are horrible and if my father called me those names I wouldnt want to talk to him either and would ignore his phone calls as well. The only way Kim would have done something wrong is if Alec left that message to her for her and then she leaked it - that would be wrong and childish. But Seeing the true Alec makes me realize why she has been acting the way she has in the last few years, and I would try to keep my children from a man that talks to them that way too!!!!! She is doing nothing wrong and more power to her!!!
This blogger obviously does not have children and is in no way connected to one…. what an idiot defending an outburst from a father like this! It might be bad that this was leaked to the press but there is no comparison to what this man did. I have been a fan of Alec Baldwin’s but never again
I, too, assume that you have no children. You need to realize that this is called “verbal abuse” and is very damaging to children. If you were to ask a 20, 12, and 10 year old, they would be able to tell you. People have received restraining orders for comments like this. And I can tell you this, Ms. Basinger could absolutely care less what you are the entire media world say, she will protect her child. So have I.
Wow, Baldwin’s publicist has lost no time hiring bloggers to defend his abusive ass.
He looks like an asshole, because he is one.
Anyone who would defend this douchebag can only be a bigger douchebag himself, or being paid to champion the causes of douchebags, which makes you the biggest douchebag of all.
Grow some integrity and stop defending child abusers, even ones with deep pockets. Then you might have a chance of someday becoming a human being.
OMFG, this site is soooo biased! If it were Britney Spears you’d be ripping her a new a-hole. I dunno who leaked that taped but it sounded pretty bad…very threating and abusive language, but I guess since it’s Alec you’ll let it slide. What, he was acting? He has a long history of abuse.
This site is losing a lot of credibility. Do you hate women, or something?
This message was violent and rude and it was inappropriate for a father to talk like this to his 11-year-old daughter. I don’t get you Ruben, your comments are more and more misogynous, and well… you’re just sad.
Thanks to all the people that responded before me. You’re such a hypocrite, Ruben. If this were Britney Spears, you would right on the bandwagon about how horrible a person she is. What, you scared Alec Baldwin would find you and beat you down for talking crap about him? If you’re going to talk shit, do it universally.
^yall are retarded. Like our parents never yelled at us before? Like our parents never told us ” you are gonna get it” Even though, it was non-violent. I swear some of you commenters are the most ignorant. Must be the same Britney fans from Idaho.
This whole Alec B is blown out. I feel sorry for the poorl girl who has to live with these dumb parents, but, serisouly, like our parents never lost it and yelled at us before!
What, do you abuse your kids like that? If you defend this abusive asshole then you are a huge abusive monster asshole. “expressly for his daughter,” he made “private” comments? if he abuses this kid, if he ridicules her in private, it’s nobody’s business? you should quit writing and somebody should verbally beat you real hard, you dickhead woman hater sicko ass
Don’t jump to conclusions? He seemed not to remember if his daughter was 11 or 12, and called her a “pig.”
I’m not sure if you remember what it was like to be that age, but I am sure that this message really hurt. And for what? Not having her phone turned on?
If his gripe was with Kim, then taking his rage out on his daughter obviously was a bad mistake. He gets all the public derision and humilation he deserves.
Ruben… you have got to be kidding me. You stated the release of the tape was worse than Alec (Jerk of Century) Baldwin calling his daughter a “thoughtless pig” for not answering his phone calls. After hearing that message, no wonder she won’t answer his calls. No telling what he has said besides this. Kim is still her mother and he has no right to tell his 11 year old what he thinks of Kim. That needs to stay between Kim and Alec. I do feel sorry for your children if you have any. After reading your support of Alec, you must not have any children. If you do… I can only imagine what “love” is shown in your family. You need to play that message a couple more times and if need transcribe to understand how selfish Alec is. I made an ass of “myself” he says. Well when our children are involved, we don’t make asses of ourselves making a phone call, whether they answer the phone or not. Well you get the idea. I could turn this into a novel. Ruben listen to the message again and this time “HEAR” his words.
Ruben, you cannot have children. If you do, I can only imagine the “love and affection” you show them. I cannot believe you stated that the release of tape was worse than Alec calling his 11 year old (11 Ruben) daughter a “thoughtless pig”. As stated by the previous post… for not answering his call. After hearing his anger and hate, I don’t blame her for not wanting to talk to him. Ruben you need to “listen” that message again… transcribe it if needed. You have obviously missed how selfish he is. He said you made an ass out of me. It’s all about Alec. Bud drink you a cup of coffee so that you are fully awake when you listen to that message again.
Who greased your palm? You can’t be serious, defending this kind of talk (by a parent or anyone else) to a child. Especially after the violence we witnessed this week at Virginia Tech. How we treat eachother, and especially how we raise our children, will come back on them and on society. Alec Baldwin’s comments are reprehensible.
Actually it looks like it was Irland thatleaked it to TMZ, not Kim. Iraland was fine with the release, so it is Alac that is the fool and ass!
what a bunch of crap all of this is. Bassinger is a Bitch, period, and he didnt call the kid anything that bad for god’s sake. as for as saying he was going to ’straighten her out’ i dont think that really constitutes a threat of physical violence. if he were that bad with his child the bitch mother would have taken her away long before she pulled this shit. she violated a confidentiality agreement. PERIOD. what’s she going to say that ireland leaked the tape next??
Wow, there are a number of ignorant mother hubbards here. (namely the one’s that believe the crime is letting OTHERS know about this PIG, Alec) Bassinger may be a bitch but to claim you can read anyone’s mind (Deb, as if you had one) is crazy. Baldwin DID it, whether we’re supposed to know about it or not. And if Ireland leaked it, then Alec’s got no excuse that, “no one’s supposed to know what an ASS that I am” He and Deb and Ruben it would appear.
Hmmmm Deb he didn’t call the kid anything bad….
A thoughtless pig
A human not worthy
This is not Hillary or Rosie he is calling that. It is his daughter….and a child!!! After hearing his rage, she probably is scared to be alone with him. I know I wouldn’t let my child anywhere near a psycho like that.
Woo girl, I would hate to see your wrath if that isn’t bad. Geez you dumbass… he didn’t even know her age. First it was 12…. then oh he remembered maybe 11. Come on wake up.
and yes, i’m a mother, so call rueben what you will, Alec Baldwin was simply a pissed off father who probably went too a lot of trouble to call his daughter, at a scheduled time. it sounds like it’s not the first time he’s been denied his rights. mothers that use thier children like this make me sick
Alec, is that you?
LOL RFLMAO Too funny RU. That really made me laugh! Short but effective.
Deb, I really don’t know what kind of mother you really are. It would be unfair to really state that you are a terrible mother. But please…. A lot of trouble to call his daughter. lol Guess that career must be much more important. You need to read aloud to yourself what you type. What a bunch of bunk and “EXCUSES”.
Cannot believe that you would in any way, shape or form defend Baldwins actions. Maybe you don’t come from an abusive home situation. maybe your parents never spoke to you in that way. well, mine did, and I know how it feels to be threatened and humiliated by a parent. As a parent now myself, I take some time to actually THINK before I speak to them, angry or not. Man I am so sick of these washed up, never that good in the first place, has been celebs. This may be the downfall of Mr. Baldwin. If so, good riddance and grow up !
you guys are all dumb….if you hate Ruben’s posting/comments. Just don’t read’em. You guys come on here everday to read what he has to say and then sit there and complain. That’s just his opinion and everyone is entitled to it. So let’s all get a life and quit b*tchin
‘whine’ ‘whine’ ‘whine’ (and of course ’snort snort’) goes the hae boy. So if Ruben advocated killing little kitties, you’d be telling everyone to just swallow it?
I’d suggest YOU swallow it hae
this website is a freakin blog not ET or anything like that. Ruben is entitled to his opinion and posting whatever he likes. If you guys don’t like what he says find another website to go to. LOSERS
Hae, seems like you enjoy putting in your two cents wroth. Guess you are a loser too for posting.
I feel sorry for the enablers who try to shift the focus to Kim. Yes, Kim leaked the tape - but Alec’s hateful words to his daughter are deplorable.
People who try to show sympathy for Alec in this case are likely to say that they drove their husbands to giving them a shiner.
First of all, it isn’t anybody’s business but their own. Unless he is beating his child or hitting his ex-wife or something then it is just thier business and the courts. Parents yell at kids. That’s life. Kids can drive parents insane. That’s life. She is only 11 years-old and she probably has ignored her father enough times that he can’t tell if it’s intentional or not. I’m sure his feelings were very hurt when he couldn’t speak to his little baby girl. I’m not saying that justifies the language, but at the same time it’s not going to kill her. I’m sure it upset her, and again, I don’t condone seaking to a child like that, but Baldwin has very limited control in the situation. He obviously doesn’t get to spend as much time with his daughter as he would like. It’s really sad. Instead of making it worse people could try to sypathize for everyone in that situation. I’m guessing everyone is hurt. At times like this people need understanding and love. Bashing any of the parties for what they did is just hurtful and mean.
Alec is the grown up and whining about HIS feelings is simply idiotic lori. Maybe you think that kids that drive their parents insane should just kill her and THEN you might complain. Let’s all sing Kumbaya for Alec Baldwin. It’s whiny little people like you lori that cause people that KILL others to avoid scrutiny and possibly save a life. Grow up…
Let’s play counselor. Both Mommy and Daddy are sitting in the room. We ask them if this is the kind of parenting each desired? What were both doing to create this kind of parenting? Does any body really think that Alec wants to talk to his young girl this way? Would any normal Mother want to hear this message? Would any normal couple accept this problem? Kim or her people are playing a very dirty and mean game…do you really think this is the first story they’ve released? Mom really hates Dad…and will do anything she can to hurt him. Dad is so pissed he rants to everyone. They both need to spend time talking this out. Let another counselor help the young girl. No parent in his/her right mind would want this. No Mother or Father would want anything but love going into his child, if that parent really thought about it. This is a sad couple. The child was innocent, however, as she ages her world takes on new and operating choices, some of which will most certainly come back to haunt her. Help is their only choice if healthy is a goal.
I agree with jossip.com
A father’s hand must be tender yet firm when correcting children. Or, as I like to call them, “rude, thoughtless little pigs.”
It is crazy for everyone to be so mad at alex and not at kim. i have 2 kids (never called them pigs) and can understand the frustration he must be feeling. if the court said a time and date for a simple phone call why can’t kim mother the child enough to be there. i didn’t feel he threatened her he simply wants to discuss what is wrong in her life she can treat her family so bad and think that is ok. alex and kim hate each other and it seems it is rubbing off on the child
Hi stupid, this is Joe. No one’s sure what’s going on, so for you to claim the court said (sic) a time for a call is silly. Do you know there was a time SET? We don’t need YOU to determine if he threatened her, it’s clear SOMEONE does or he wouldn’t have lost his visitation rights. By the way, since you seem so well informed on this and know everyone’s intentions: Who is ALEX?
I love the way you talk about how this poor 11-year-old girl is being exploited. Aren’t YOU contributing to the problem by giving Alec Baldwin (or Kim Basinger, for that matter) the time of day?
Nora o’ Nora you condone that kind of behavior. God forbid you should have any children. Your parents yelled at you like that I feel sorry for you. My parents yelled at me but what he did was downright insult and degrading to an adult. You need to check yourself. That’s why a lot of people these days can’t hold down decent jobs and schools are being shot up these days, because people are not giving these children the love, support, and understanding they need and deserve. SHAME ON YOU!!!
Honestly, if that’s the worst thing anyone ever says to the girl at 11, she’s doing pretty damn good.
Not saying Alec did it this time, but a while back there was an article about how he berated some resteraunt waiters/owners to get a phone… maybe this is why?
He clearly has anger management issues, has for a long time. While it doesn’t get him off the hook, in light of that these comments are even the worst thing I’ve heard today.
Leaking it was illegal. Nevermind the moral factor, it
was straight up illegal. This tape either belongs in the court, or if Ms. Basinger is found to be an irresponsible parent, with DSS. The general public has no real say in how a parent raises their child,
which makes this an obvious ploy for support.
Which she’ll get because everyone is so anti-anger or
anything besides bargaining and ego stroking their
kids. This generation is fucked when they run into jobs where their bosses don’t give a shit about them.
Leaking this was LEGAL nut job. Whether you believe that Ireland has the right to allow others to hear emails left for her (especially ones that threaten her physically) isn’t the issue. Adults get to deal with that, not you (luckily). The general public has a responsibility if they know of these kind of problems to make sure that their outrage is known. This generation (Yours, Ireland’s, MINE?) isn’t fucked unless you represent them. Their doing fine
I DON’T GIVE A DANG ABOUT CELEBS. THESE PEOPLE WOULDN’T PISS ON YA IF YOUR GUTS WERE ON FIRE, BUT WHEN CHILDREN ARE CONCERNED I PAY ATTENTION. I AM A MOTHER OF 12 AND WOULD NOT DARE TALK TO MY CHILDREN THAT WAY. WHAT WOULD IT DO TO THEIR SELF ESTEEM. CELEBS NEED TO WATCH HOW THEY PUT THEMSELVES OUT THERE BECAUSE LIKE IT OR NOT(SADLY) CHILDREN AND OTHERS LOOK UP TO THEM. EVERYONE TURNING AWAY FROM GOD AND LOOKS WHATS LEFT. ITS REALLY SAD.
MAMA12:
PLEASE stop having children! You seem a little crude and uneducated, but surely you can see the link between too many people on this Earth, and the demise of limited resources. 6 billion people now — do the math. I’ll do it for you. If we all had 12 children, breeding like thoughtless idiots, there would be 36 billion in 40 years (assuming monogamy), and then over 200 billion in 75 years. What the HELL were you thinking? Certainly not being unselfish. I consider any comments from you invalid. Do you think your “God” will take care of things? Look at history — never has happened. Please educate yourself.
However, I do agree that Alec Baldwin and not Kim Basinger is at fault here. He, not she, made the horrific comments. He made them to a child, his own child whose age he could not remember! I have never before read or made online comments and won’t again (so don’t bother insulting me as I won’t be checking) but suspect that “deb” is a man — maybe OJ someone? “deb” is a scary person, regardless of gender. Abuse is horrible and I cringed when I heard this rant.
I agree with Ruben. We don’t know the whole story and it was not our business. Its too serious an issue to be a part of blogs and entertainment shows. All we have is a small piece of the puzzle. People overreact. It happens, its not a good thing, but it happens. What Kim did was at least as bad.
What it comes down to is you’re all, blogger and commentors alike, judgemental assholes and you need to mind your own business. You have no idea what goes on within their family, and listening to one phone message doesn’t give anyone the right to pass judgement. So you don’t agree with it? Well guess what, its not your kid, get over it.
Ruben…I completely AGREE with you. I couldn’t have said it better myself. Thank goodness for you!! Everyone is saying how bad of a father Alec is but there are two sides to every story and just the thought of Kim leaking this to the media is sooo sad and wrong!
Impressive piece of doublethink. A guy verbally abuses his young daughter and we’re supposed to think this is the fault of the mother? Baldwin just fell more than a few notches in my estimation. Whatever Kim Basinger is like, it doesn’t excuse this. What a cruel prick he is.
How about a little rational thought here. Mr. Baldwin has maintained for years that his ex-wife is insane (he married her) and then is aghast when she turns around and releases his insane cellphone message diatribe. Shock and horror! Given his very public statements about his ex-wife he has no grounds to turn this around on her. His well documented assessments of his wife’s capabilities would lead one to believe he would be very aware she is capable in his eyes of making a media event out of this. Just as we should not be at all surprised at the violent and agressive nature of his dealings with his family. They’re both troubled people and the daughter is taking the brunt of it. I don’t care how mad someone might get at their kid, you don’t call them a ’stupid pig’ unless it relates to how much dirty laundry is piled on their bedroom floor and even then you don’t scream it in a rage over a cellphone from 2600 miles away. If I were the daughter, I wouldn’t have kept that date with him on Friday.
Ruben, I’m really disturbed by your comment that distributing this voice mail for public knowledge was worse than what he said to his daughter!!! Are you crazy? A father or mother should never speak to their child like that. There is no excuse for it, EVER! Another thing, if ppl wouldn’t broadcast their dirty laundry then you wouldn’t have a job…….
ruben, I’m disappointed in your comment about kim being worse for making the phone call public knowledge than for what he said to his daughter! A mother or father should never speak to their kids that way. If ppl wouldn’t broadcast their dirty laundry then you wouldn’t have a job….. hmmmmm
Yeah thats it. This PSYCHO just one day woke up and said “I’m going to be a verbal/emotional jerk and call my daughter a rude little pig” Give me a break, this egotistical jerk is pissed because he has been exposed. Any child that has a loving relationship with their parent cannot be brainwashed, in fact, the opposite usually happens.
Word of advice Baldwin… If your daughter ever decides to forgive you. Choose your battles. Shes not even a teenager yet and your blowing your fuse over a missed phone call? In your own words, she could have been out stealing a car.
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It is clear that Alec Baldwin is a total dick.
Alec give dicks a bad name
Joe
I am glad this voicemail was leaked. As a consumer I have the right to know where my money is going. I am glad that I now know what a shit bag Baldwin is and I will never have any of my money go towards and project he is associated with in any way until he gets intestive counseling. I think the person that leaked this tape deserves a medal.
Yes the message was harsh. But for us to judge him with out knowing exactly was going on is wrong as well. As far as any of us know his daughter may have been giving him a hard time for a long time. It is possible when it was time for to come visit with him she canceled her visits to do the things she wants to do. He may talk to her in this tone and manner on a regular basis (hopefully without the name calling). What I hear when I listened to the message was a father who is fed up with the rude behavior that his child is displaying. Was he right to say this things, Yes, because they were not meant to be heard by the public. Kim was wrong for handing the tape over to be heard by the public. This is a card that was not played very well for her. Anyone who says their parnets never said harsh and hurtful things to them is lying. It all depends on what one consider harsh. I honestly believe he is a father who is fed up with the disrespect that his daughter is given him. And yes he did call her name, but what is really in reference to. I think it had to do with the attitude she was displaying towards him. But then again I sure all of you don’t live in glass houses and never have committed a sin. Whatever!!!!! Get over it move on and let this man deal with his child.
No one knows that Kim gave up the tape (but crazies have been pointing at her because it’s an easy leap) but letting OTHERS know that this ticking time bomb is threatening her daughter wouldn’t be totally unwise (except for the court order which she’s touted before) You don’t know that the daughter is rude, any more than Alec does, these shitty cell phones can be finicky. For anyone to defend this is the biggest problem I’m seeing. Sure, Ireland will live through this and it’s not the WORSE thing that he could have done, but from the looks of some of you morons it would take her DEATH which IS the worse thing he could do, to make any of you to say ill of the maniac. Of course Ruben would probably come up with some type of excuse for this scum. He’s either had his palm greased, or maybe Alec’s greased somethng else. Care to clue us in Ruben?
You cannot talk to a child like that. He is not fit as a parent!
the word says he s been abusing kim.
who s the dick again you say, ruben?
(did not read re above)
What a ridiculous debate… Which parent is maturely setting aside their emotions to look out for the child’s best interests first? NEITHER. The parents have decided that their ego’s and pride are more important than their child’s emotional health and development. Though each parent may love the child with all their heart and have many moments of good parenting, ultimately they are letting her down because in the critical moments when they need to be there to meet her needs, they are failing to do so.
In the end Ireland will suffer because down deep she will have trouble trusting. Like a dog that’s been beaten over and over again, a person gets so that they ‘cower’ when they see the person that they’re supposed to be ‘close’ to come near. It affects all future intimate relationships. Once Distrust is learned, it can take a lifetime to unlearn. That’s sad to me.
My mom said “fuck you” to me a few days ago. Because I did not want green plaid curtains in my room. She goes”fuck you, then…you dont have any taste anyway.” I guess parents say things that they dont mean in times of anger. Im not defending him calling his 11 yr old daughter a pig and whatever else. Also, if she were 30 would it be any worse? everyones stressing the fact that shes 11 like its worse. She knows her father well…better any of us, so I cannot judge him like she can. I agree with you, Crissy. I dont know how old you are, but damn you are insightful! You’ll make a great mom if you arent already one.
It was a stupid move to make that recording public. Alec was wrong to take his anger on his wife out on his daughter…Kim was wrong for exploiting her own daughter to make Alec look bad. Men most never get costudy, and the fact that he couldnt talk to her when he wanted probably set him off because it may feel like Kim has the upper hand when she may be the “bad guy” when it all boils down…or maybe Alec really is the biggest asshole on the planet? I cannot judge.
My father said this to me when I was like 9. “If youre going to be a boy, you should start running like one,dammit!” which hurt my feelings. I was an akward child. I told my mother and she chewed him out. Mommies are wonderful. lol!
Michael, I am very sad for you that your mother would say something so ugly to you over insignificant curtains. Parents have a responsibility to their children to be a good example for them. For your mother to call you names, to belittle your taste, to be so callous about your feelings is exhibiting bad parenting. We take our cues about ourselves from those we love and respect and if they are careless and even cruel, we still believe what they say. Your father was just as insensitive when he judged your maleness by how you ran as a child. That’s just too harsh. You exhibit extraordinary wisdom and compassion for one who had such inadequate role models.
Right, he abuses his daughter and insults her mother (which Baldwin has been claiming is what Kim does) and SHE’s a bitch. And the harm is what, that now maybe neither one of them will be forced to see an abusive man if they choose not to? Or that other abusers might get their abuse taped and outed too? What a shame! People will stop protecting abusers.
Please. No decent father would support any other man talking to their daughter like this. The other old abuser ally standbys are alreadyout in this case. Sure, he’s “volataile” but he’s not violent! Well, he may have “restrained” her, but “she’s nuts”. Oh, and maybe he hit her but she was throwing herslef at his arms.
WHere have I heard that? Oh yeah, from every wife beater alive and his wife beating sxcusing and supporting pals.
Bad guys should all have their abusive actions and words made public. I know the angry divorced men get together in their “fathers rights clubs” and all but how many of those guys have their own histories of abusing women? If you don’t want abuse made public,don’t do it. Only abusers want to see abusers protected.
A lot of people on here sure want to put the responsibility for his verbal abuse on the mom and daughter. What they are suggesting is that 11 year old girls deserve to be abused because they asked for it. I hope these people are not fathers.
looks to me like “Deb” is Alec.
I think your right kelly! Good call.
I sense that the writer of this blog is somewhat affiliated with Alec Baldwin’s publicity company. Who in their right mind agrees that what Kim Basinger did was worse. I know the horrors of divorce and sometimes if you want to get out of a violent marriage, you have to put their mistakes on blast.
Ruben’s from the old country. He’s usually going to take the man’s side and criticize women if they don’t fit the picture of the perfect wife, mother, or girlfriend. And also if that woman doesn’t fit his standard of beauty or doesn’t starve herself to please men.
As a non-custodial parent I totally understand where Alex is coming from in this case. Kim, his ex-wife, knows exactly how to pull his chain and does so at will to keep him looking like the bad guy. How else does a home phone answering message end up on TMZ. Kim’s passive-aggressive personally is completely at play on her daughter and Alec. In my case I would drive 600 miles every other Friday night to get time with my two daughters for Saturday and Sunday and drive home all night Sunday and go straight to work on Monday. On many occasions my ex-wife would allow my daughters to arrange sleepovers, weekend trips, movies with friends on my time with my daughters, just to make me the bad guy who prevents them from spending time with their friends. This parallels Alec’s time with his daughter on the phone, which is vital in order to stay part of your children’s life when you do not have access daily. Kim is the cause of this outbreak, his feels like a victim having his fatherhood removed by a woman who only truly cares about getting even and not the true interest of the child having a father. She just wants a little girl friend, she will royally screw up her daughter. It has taken me a decade since my children started college and many years of counseling to get my beautiful children back to normal. Now the tattoos are removed, the piercing are gone, the orange or pink hair is gone and my children are living a normal life. Oh yes, they now see and hate their court appointed custodial parent and now she is gone from their lives. Alec, all I can say is when you feel like throwing in the towel… Stop and wrap your daughter in it. She will need you down the road of life.
Feoptions…I could have written your comments verbatim. You are so right. Unless you’ve experienced it, you do not know. Some so-called mothers do not care how they damage the poor kids in order to get at the ex.
Divorce laws and subsequent judgments in this country are unfairly skewed against men/fathers. As bad as Alec’s rants was and believe me it was bad, I still want to give him the benefit of doubt. I’ve been there and can very much relate. Sometimes, ex wives or so-called mothers manipulate and use the kids as pawns for results like this. You are pushed to the wall until you SNAP!!! Honest, I’m no supporter of “blowhard Alec” and his liberal politics but this time, I sincerely feel his pain. We can’t know how much salient underhanded manipulation he has endured from Kim, her lawyers and even the child. Why isn’t the so-called mother’s judgment questioned for releasing this tape? Is this the action of a caring mother? … publicly airing this dirty laundry? She is equally culpable and should not be beyond reproach. Most divorced men are generally not the ogre that the ex wives and their money grubbing filthy lawyers make them out to be. They want nothing but to be good dads to their children.
I disagree, Ruben. When you voluntarily leave a message on someone’s voicemail/answering machine, you have no Expectation of Privacy.
I have seen worst parents. Yes the way he spoke towards her was wrong but do really think he is always like that? Lets not be ignorant here, Kim Basinger is trying to make him look bad. They are in the middle off a divorce. You know all parents has had their breaking points. I know for a fact that Kim too must have went over the line at least once just like every other parent. You can tell that he cares about his daughter and is hurt that she is ignoring him and feels that shes siding with her mom. This was his moment of rage that theres no excuse for. You can tell he loves her or else he wouldnt put an effort out to reach her and wouldnt be in this custody situation. Just for an outburst which was in the moment he souldn’t be labled. Kim should be ashamed of herself for releasimg this, she should try to make things easier for her daughter and make it less as public as possible. She really cares only about herself. it was a really selfish thing to do and very embarassing for her daughter.
Is is really necessary to call Kim Basinger names?
The topic at hand is Alec’s behavior.
Again, like Britney Spears, Alec’s anger management problems did not happen overnight. Believe me, this is not the first time Alec verbally abused her daughter.
There is no JUSTIFICATION under any, I mean ANY, circumstances to verbally abuse one’s child. An adult is responsible for his/her own actions.
Just because Alec is such a nice co-worker or friend, it doesn’t mean he is good to his immediate family. Abusers abuse their wives and kids because this type of behavior will not be tolerated at work.
Just remember, never take anything for granted.. it is here one day and gone the next.. even our children. Everything you say and do drastically affects the rest of your childs life… Think before you speak….
AMEN, Invisible! AMEN!
Children are angels before their parents corrupt them. I hope Ireland doesn’t end up like Britney Spears.
Talk about jumping to conclusions! First of all, Kim and Alec have been divorced for over 5 years, they are not currently going through a divorce. Secondly, it has not been determined who gave up the tape. Rumor has it, the child turned it over to TMZ. Third, noone knows that the message was left on the home phone, Ireland probably has her own cell phone. And lastly and more importantly, there is NO excuse or extenuating circumstance that would make that phone call acceptable under any condition. Who cares that poor Alec was frustrated. What a creep. If he was my father, I would expose him too. He isn’t sorry for what he did, he is sorry he got caught….just like all abusive narcissistic men. And Ruben, whoever you are…you are pathetic.
There isn’t any excuse for saying what he did, however to say he is a bad father because of that is ignorant. I can’t think of too many parents, especially the fathers, who didn’t say something a little harsh similar to what Alec said at some point to their pre-teen/teenaged kids. I am not claiming what he did is right at all, but let’s get serious here, because he is a celebrity he is being held to a higher standard then everyone else, same with Kim. Much like every other celebrity parent out there.
Also, considering the targeted audience of this blog, the majority of you are most likely adolescence or young adults. It is not likely you have the experience of being a parent, especially of a pre-adolescent child. Please think about that before you make claims over Alec or even Kim. It is immature to place judgment over someone you have never met let alone if have not walked in their shoes. Leave that decision to the professionals.
Was what Alec said abusive?
YES.
Was it anything unusual in American society today?
NO.
Does that make it right?
NO.
But don’t kid yourselves. We didn’t find out about this because it’s child abuse.
We found out about it because a cleebrity said it.
We found out about it because Alec and Kim are determined to embarass and humiliate each other.
For the record, I didn’t write this although it represents my sentiments:
Comment by Trump IS a Bully
2007-04-20 22:58:14
Talk about jumping to conclusions! First of all, Kim and Alec have been divorced for over 5 years, they are not currently going through a divorce. Secondly, it has not been determined who gave up the tape. Rumor has it, the child turned it over to TMZ. Third, noone knows that the message was left on the home phone, Ireland probably has her own cell phone. And lastly and more importantly, there is NO excuse or extenuating circumstance that would make that phone call acceptable under any condition. Who cares that poor Alec was frustrated. W